{"id":93328,"date":"2021-04-13T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2021-04-13T14:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/?p=93328"},"modified":"2024-12-03T14:34:05","modified_gmt":"2024-12-03T19:34:05","slug":"repod-episode-7-chris-lattner-the-gordon-ramsay-of-escape-rooms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2021\/04\/13\/repod-episode-7-chris-lattner-the-gordon-ramsay-of-escape-rooms\/","title":{"rendered":"REPOD Episode 7: Chris Lattner: The Gordon Ramsay of Escape Rooms"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In episode 7, we talk to Chris Lattner,&nbsp;CEO and creative director&nbsp;of The Room&nbsp;in&nbsp;Berlin, one of the top-ranked escape room companies in the world, according to TERPECA\u2014the Top Escape Rooms Project Enthusiasts\u2019 Choice Awards.&nbsp;The&nbsp;Room\u2019s&nbsp;immersive adventures&nbsp;have continued&nbsp;to win awards and accolades throughout the years, including our own Room Escape Artist\u2019s Golden Lock Awards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chris\u2019 background&nbsp;was&nbsp;as a professional DJ in the techno scene for many years, performing at clubs and festivals around the world. He was also heavily involved in the&nbsp;European&nbsp;geocaching scene, years before escape rooms even existed. After chatting with Chris, it became very clear that he has a focused design philosophy rooted in his past influences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From guiding party-goers on an immersive emotional journey as a DJ, to creating a world-class geocaching adventure that oftentimes involved climbing equipment and wandering through forests at night, and even playing countless hours of video games, Chris shares with us all his influences and inspirations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chris is opinionated, deliberate in his design choices, and full of interesting life experiences. We loved getting inside his head and hearing about how he brings his immersive adventures to life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"585\" data-attachment-id=\"93338\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/chris-lattner-twitter\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1100,628\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Chris Lattner The Room Berlin\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-1024x585.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-1024x585.jpg\" alt=\"dimly lit staircase in what looks like a temple with a picture of a man wearing glasses.\" class=\"wp-image-93338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-1024x585.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-300x171.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-768x438.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter-685x391.jpg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Chris-Lattner-Twitter.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode 7<\/h2>\n\n\n<p><iframe title=\"S1E7: Chris Lattner - The Gordon Ramsey of Escape Rooms\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=j5se3-10083ef-pb&amp;from=pb6admin&amp;download=1&amp;share=1&amp;download=1&amp;rtl=0&amp;fonts=Tahoma&amp;skin=2&amp;btn-skin=4\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BMx56ChP8kg?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Topics Discussed in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Chris talks about his philosophy regarding renovations and updates to his existing experiences, explaining that when he designs an experience, sometimes the technology for his vision isn\u2019t available yet, but when it does become available, he will update. [2:08]&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris tells us that his company isn\u2019t really a \u201cpuzzle shop\u201d and that he prefers what he calls \u201ctasks\u201d over puzzles. He illustrates the difference between puzzles and tasks, and why he considers \u201ctasks\u201d to be more immersive. [3:45]&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David discusses a third type of \u201cpuzzle\u201d that he sees in escape rooms, something he calls \u201cchallenges,\u201d which require physical dexterity.&nbsp;[5:37]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris talks to us about why he changed the subtitle of his business name from \u201cLive Escape Game\u201d to \u201cImmersive Adventures,\u201d and what differentiates the two.&nbsp;[6:09]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris tells us about some of his influences, including open-world video games like <em>Assassin\u2019s Creed<\/em>, and old point-and-click LucasArts games. [7:08]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris says that the storytellers of his youth were Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, and talks about what an impression those adventure movies, like <em>Indiana Jones<\/em> and <em>Ghostbusters<\/em>, had on him. What he loves most about those movies is the emotional journey on which they take you. [9:10]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris jokes about being the \u201cGordon Ramsey\u201d of escape rooms, and acknowledges being a harsh critic of escape rooms. [11:38]&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David comments that for him, the best games create a realistic sense of urgency, as opposed to the drive to win the game for the sake of ego. [14:20]&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris tells us about his past experience designing and creating \u201cextreme\u201d geocaching adventures in 2012, even before escape rooms were a thing. [15:33] (video below)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris talks about his popular geocache adventure \u201cDead Men Tell No Tales,\u201d a multi-stage 6-hour experience that required climbing gear, treks into a German forest at night, and crawling through a dark tunnel. He even created a chest with a beating heart, booking system and hint system. [17:15] (video below)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris explains the terrain ranking system for geocaching, from wheelchair accessible to requiring climbing gear or scuba diving gear. [19:23]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris talks about \u201clost places,\u201d abandoned military complexes, and how this type of extreme adventure geocaching is forbidden now. [20:23]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peih-Gee talks about her days as a raver in her twenties, and how they would sneak into these types of \u201clost places\u201d and throw big underground parties, and the adventure of trying to locate parties in the desert. [21:30]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris was a professional DJ in the techno scene, performing at clubs and festivals around the world for many years. He talks to us about how he immerses the audience, taking them on a journey, building atmosphere, and controlling the crowd. He discusses the importance of managing the ebb and flow of the energy levels, and how he applies this philosophy to the immersive experiences he creates. [22:50]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris tells us that for his game <em>The Lost Treasure<\/em>, they created an automated mechanism where the sound is mixed in real time with a game engine during the game, triggered by the actions of the players. [25:22]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In his newest game,<em> Brandon Darkmoor<\/em>, Chris tells us that his gamemaster is basically \u201crunning a real theatre show for just five people.\u201d In this game, the gamemaster is mixing the sound for the games live and triggering scenes by hand. [26:32]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris talks about the use of scents in his immersive adventures, and how powerful it is in creating a realistic atmosphere. [27:45]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>SPOILER ALERT: We discuss the political message and narrative story of Chris\u2019 game <em>Go West<\/em>. Some details are spoilers for the game, so if you haven\u2019t played it and don\u2019t want to be spoiled, you can skip ahead to 32:19.&nbsp;[29:35]&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris discusses his philosophy behind updating existing older rooms as opposed to completely discarding them. [33:11]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris tells us that his next immersive experience will be centered around Vikings, inspired by his love of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/assassins-creed-valhalla-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Assassin\u2019s Creed Valhalla<\/em>,<\/a> the newest game in the series. He has even consulted a historian to ensure historical accuracy.&nbsp;[35:47] <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We chat about creating immersive experiences for tourists and using theming based on local history and culture. Chris gives us an example of creating an experience rooted in local history and making use of a unique location, like an old railway station. [37:05]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris talks about his love of LinkedIn and about his second company, The Room Labs, which creates themed entertainment for restaurants, escape rooms, and museum experiences [39:55]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Chris gives us a bonus escape room story. [42:45]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Q216L2YAPo0?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/O-Y06lX_P3I?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Resources Mentioned in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/artist\/5AmUDHl2DedYKL1y6cKxWP?si=Rdk01FL3TUehmYV1PYfgdA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Chris\u2019 Spotify Playlist<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/topescaperoomsproject.com\/2020\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">TERPECA&#8217;S website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2017\/10\/09\/room-go-west-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of <em>Go West<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2017\/10\/02\/room-lost-treasure-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of <em>The Lost Treasure<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2017\/10\/16\/room-beast-berlin-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of <em>Beast of Berlin<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/O-Y06lX_P3I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Video of the treasure chest from the geocache adventure Dead Men Tell No Tales<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Q216L2YAPo0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Video of the secret entrance into the final room where you find the logbook. It was built by geocachers into an old abandoned children&#8217;s hospital.<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bXvLt5LPWS8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube videos of Chris DJing at Fuse<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mfv-2GRjsuQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Youtube video of Chris DJing in South Africa.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-attachment-id=\"93362\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/room_brandondarkmoor_dimension2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2.jpeg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-1024x768.jpeg\" data-id=\"93362\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"stairs in what appears to be an Egyptian temple with statues of leopard headed gods\" class=\"wp-image-93362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-800x600.jpeg?crop=1 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-400x300.jpeg?crop=1 400w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-200x150.jpeg?crop=1 200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2-685x514.jpeg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Dimension2.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Brandon Darkmoor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-attachment-id=\"93361\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/room_brandondarkmoor_zelle3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3.jpeg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-1024x768.jpeg\" data-id=\"93361\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"bed with metal frame in a dingy room with scribbles on the wall and photos above.\" class=\"wp-image-93361\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-800x600.jpeg?crop=1 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-400x300.jpeg?crop=1 400w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-200x150.jpeg?crop=1 200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3-685x514.jpeg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_BrandonDarkmoor_Zelle3.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Brandon Darkmoor <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-attachment-id=\"93360\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/room_gowest_eingangsbereich\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich.jpeg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-1024x768.jpeg\" data-id=\"93360\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"dark room with german signs on the wall and chain link fencing\" class=\"wp-image-93360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-800x600.jpeg?crop=1 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-400x300.jpeg?crop=1 400w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-200x150.jpeg?crop=1 200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich-685x514.jpeg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Eingangsbereich.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Go West<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Ostraum.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"676\" data-attachment-id=\"93359\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/room_gowest_ostraum\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_GoWest_Ostraum.jpeg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,792\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" 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https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/ROOM_LostTreasure_Schreinraum.jpeg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Lost Treasure <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Follow <span style=\"color:#333333\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Chris Lattner<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/chris-lattner-a46a49203\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/clattner\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">FaceBook<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.instagram.com\/chrislattner\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Personal Instagram<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.the-room-berlin.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Room Berlin Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a 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Thus the team was expanded to include Malte Eiben, who is responsible for programming, and Wilko Drews, with whom Chris designed HUMBOLDT, or THE LOST TREASURE, as it is known today.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After 8 months of building, THE LOST TREASURE opened to the public in November 2015. 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