{"id":150818,"date":"2024-10-29T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-29T14:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/?p=150818"},"modified":"2024-12-03T14:52:00","modified_gmt":"2024-12-03T19:52:00","slug":"epic-engrossing-jeroen-vanhasselt-demise-gricers-repod-s8e5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2024\/10\/29\/epic-engrossing-jeroen-vanhasselt-demise-gricers-repod-s8e5\/","title":{"rendered":"Epic &amp; Engrossing: Jeroen van Hasselt, Co-Creator of Demise of the Gricers (REPOD S8E5)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe title=\"Epic &#038; Engrossing: Jeroen van Hasselt, Co-Creator of Demise of the Gricers (REPOD S8E5)\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=wbfz9-17177d3-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Tahoma&#038;skin=1b1b1b&#038;font-color=auto&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=60a0c8\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1D4G5EnAvRY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u201cIt\u2019s entertainment to experience the emotion of fear.\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I creep out from the relative safety of the control center. Keeping to the shadows, I stealthily make the journey through an abandoned train yard. Somewhere in the sprawling tangle of train cars, a gricer is hunting me and my team. I complete my mission, and immediately I hear the clang of footsteps approaching. Before I even register what my feet are doing, I\u2019m on the move, weaving through the debris. Reunited with my team, I\u2019m whooping in celebration and feeling the heady rush of success. My heart is pounding, and I\u2019ve never felt more alive.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2024\/09\/08\/entered-demise-gricers-extended-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Demise of the Gricers<\/a><\/em> is a massively ambitious game created by Entered, located in Belgium. The worldbuilding is engrossing, and the physical mechanics make you feel like a hero in a real life video game. There&#8217;s a reason this game won a Golden Lock Award in 2024, with David Spira calling it <em>&#8220;one of my personal favorite experiences to date.&#8221;<\/em> (It&#8217;s mine too.) Jeroen van Hasselt, Creative Director &amp; Game Designer at Entered, joins us to talk about his career creating unique game mechanics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"846\" height=\"474\" data-attachment-id=\"150816\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/hero-image-repod-s8e5-jeroen-van-hasselt-demise-of-the-gricers\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"846,474\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"hero image REPOD S8E5 Jeroen van Hasselt Demise of the gricers\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers.jpg\" alt=\"Title card for repod S8E5 featuring Jeroen van Hasselt. man in black hooded sweatshirt wearing glasses and a goatee. Man with sideswept hair wearing a dark blue turtleneck. Asian woman in safari outfit wielding an axe while smiling.\" class=\"wp-image-150816\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers.jpg 846w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers-768x430.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/hero-image-REPOD-S8E5-Jeroen-van-Hasselt-Demise-of-the-gricers-600x336.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 846px) 100vw, 846px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I enjoyed hearing him talk about his design pillars, and his motivations behind crafting the horror aspect of his games. He talks about designing for \u201capprehension\u201d in <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em> instead of terror, and the need to balance tension in horror games. We also discuss safety issues and the steps that his team have taken to address safety.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What really stood out to me during this interview was how much thought Jeroen puts into crafting mechanics that fit the narrative. He explains that thinking about trains in the abstract, he realized they are limited in freedom because they are on rails. He took this concept and used it to create the very unique game mechanics for <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em>. While this game might not be for everyone, it is certainly different and exciting. I\u2019m looking forward to seeing what comes next for this talented designer.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"thank-you-to-our-sponsors\">Thank You to Our Sponsors<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We are immensely grateful to our sponsors this season: Morty App, Buzzshot, and COGS. We truly appreciate your support of our mission to promote and improve the immersive gaming community. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/morty.app\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"758\" data-attachment-id=\"103024\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/asset-264x\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x.png\" data-orig-size=\"1174,869\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Asset 26@4x\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-300x222.png 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-768x568.png 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-685x507.png 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x.png 1174w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size has-custom-lineheight mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\" style=\"line-height:1;font-size:51px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mortyapp.com\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Morty<\/strong><\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\">Morty is a free app for discovering, planning, tracking, and reviewing your escape rooms and other immersive social outings. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\"><strong>Morty News: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Morty is rolling out Instant Bookings directly via the app.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Escape Room Owners can join the <a href=\"https:\/\/morty.app\/s\/morty-partner-program\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Morty Partner Program<\/a> for in-app bookings.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Special Badge for REPOD listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can learn more at <a href=\"https:\/\/morty.app\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>MortyApp.com\/REPOD<\/strong><\/a> to sign up and get a special badge for our listeners. (This works for existing users too!) <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"663\" height=\"341\" data-attachment-id=\"112962\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/buzzshot-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"663,341\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"buzzshot logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" alt=\"Buzzshot logo featuring a rounded square with a white &quot;Z&quot; surrounded by stylized z shaped graphics\" class=\"wp-image-112962\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg 663w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo-300x154.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 663px) 100vw, 663px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/repod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Buzzshot<\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Buzzshot is Escape Room Software, Powering Business Growth, Player Marketing, and improving the Customer Experience. They offer an assortment of pre and post game features including robust waiver management, branded team photos, and streamlined review management for Yelp, TripAdvisor, Google Reviews, and Morty. Buzzshot now has integration with the other REPOD sponsors: Morty and COGS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\"><strong>Special Offer for REPOD Listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>REPOD listeners get an extended 21-day free trial plus <strong>20% off <\/strong>your first 3 months, with no set-up fees or hidden charges. Visit <a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/repod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>buzzshot.com\/repod<\/strong><\/a> to learn more about this exclusive offer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"351\" data-attachment-id=\"125398\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/cogs-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"800,351\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"cogs logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" alt=\"logo for COGS, the C looks like a gear, and it's white text over a purple background\" class=\"wp-image-125398\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo-300x132.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo-768x337.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">COGS<\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>COGS by Clockwork Dog is an easy to use software\/ hardware platform for running interactive events, including escape rooms, and other immersive experiences. They have plug &amp; play hardware that seamlessly integrates with their software so you can create a show with lighting and sound cues without having to write a single line of code.&nbsp;Map all kinds of inputs to outputs by building up simple logic steps which determine what you want to happen and when.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\"><strong>Special Offer for REPOD Listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\">REPOD listeners can get the COGS Starter Set for only $130 + free shipping to the USA. This bundle is usually valued at $257. You can learn more and purchase your Starter Set at <a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>cogs.show<\/strong><\/a>. Use code <strong>REPOD<\/strong> at checkout.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"topics-discussed-in-this-episode\">Topics Discussed in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:13 Sponsor Break: Buzzshot, Escape Room Marketing Software<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:51 Appeal of Games Designed Around an Unusual Mechanic<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>05:44 <em>The Flock<\/em>, an Innovative University Project<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>12:39 Lessons Learned from a Mismanaged Game Launch<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>14:17 <em>I Can Hear You<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3ErqOezTWes?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>18:22 Jeroen&#8217;s First Experience with Escape Rooms<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>22:20 Sponsor Break: Morty App, Discover And Track Escape Rooms<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>24:09 <em>The Nightmare of Evelin Shadow<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mHTJWKDIJ98?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>29:01 Sponsor Break: Cogs By Clockwork Dog, Interactive Show Controls<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:02 <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em>&#8216; Unusual Location<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>33:02 Design Pillars of <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>36:43 Normal and Extended Versions of <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>*Note from Entered: Even though in the podcast we casually refer to the extended version as the 4-hour version vs. the 2-hour version, officially, the extended version is 200 minutes of gameplay vs 100 minutes for the normal version. We tell people to block 4 hours in their schedule, minimum, for the extended version as this includes prep &amp; debrief. For the normal version, this is 2-hour 15 minutes total including prep &amp; debrief.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>42:08 The Onboarding Process for <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>49:24 The Physicality of <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>51:43 Adjusting for a Team\u2019s Capabilities<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>53:29 Actors and Performance in <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>57:34 Solo and Hero Theatrical Moments<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:00:14 The Importance of Apprehension in Horror Games<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:02:33 Addressing Safety Concerns<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:09:25 The Red Eye Universe<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:12:04 Adventurous Dining<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:13:32 Uncertainty for the Future of <em>Demise of the Gricers<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>01:17:23 What Comes Next<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Leave us a voicemail<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Got a question or thought for the podcast? 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