{"id":144213,"date":"2024-05-21T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2024-05-21T14:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/?p=144213"},"modified":"2024-12-05T11:42:13","modified_gmt":"2024-12-05T16:42:13","slug":"repod-s7e11-everything-immersive-noah-nelson-of-no-proscenium","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2024\/05\/21\/repod-s7e11-everything-immersive-noah-nelson-of-no-proscenium\/","title":{"rendered":"REPOD S7E11 Everything Immersive: Noah Nelson of No Proscenium"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe title=\"S7E11 - Everything Immersive: Noah Nelson of No Proscenium\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=gzpsd-1615e5b-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Tahoma&#038;skin=1b1b1b&#038;font-color=auto&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=60a0c8\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hXEOcE0FZ1g?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u201cI have irrational exuberance about the future of immersive.\u201d<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Whether you work in the immersive theater space, or have more than a passing interest in the immersive arts, chances are you\u2019ve seen Noah Nelson at an immersive event, or listened to his coverage of it on the No Proscenium podcast.&nbsp; Or maybe you\u2019ve read about it on their weekly newsletter. Whether it\u2019s reviews of immersive theater shows, thought pieces on the term \u201cimmersive\u201d or articles on how to break into the immersive industry, No Proscenium has it covered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After attending <em>Sleep No More<\/em> and <em>Then She Fell, <\/em>Noah he came out of these experiences with his mind on fire. He started compiling a list of upcoming immersive shows to share with his friends, which eventually became the No Proscenium website, an incredible resource for all things immersive.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"575\" data-attachment-id=\"144211\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/hero-repod-s7e11-noah-nopro\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1275,716\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Hero REPOD S7E11 Noah NoPro\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-1024x575.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-1024x575.jpg\" alt=\"Hero image for Season 7, ep 11 of REPOD with Noah Nelson of No Proscenium. man with glasses, Man in all black with his hands on his hips scowling, asian woman in safari gear holding a machete, smiling.\" class=\"wp-image-144211\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-768x431.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro-1200x674.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Hero-REPOD-S7E11-Noah-NoPro.jpg 1275w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>On the podcast, Noah shares insights from his decades long coverage of immersive, including how immersive theater and escape rooms can learn from each other. I especially appreciated hearing him talk about teaching immersive at the college level and hearing about the passion that his students have for the medium.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"> \u201cThey&#8217;re obsessed with the idea of telling stories this way. They want to figure out how to make a good immersive experience, right? It&#8217;s not cynical at all. They believe in the power of the form. And that&#8217;s what takes all of this&nbsp; from being a fad and becoming a medium and industry is that the love of the form is such that people pursue it at any cost.\u201d <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to check out the <a href=\"https:\/\/noproscenium.com\/podcast\/home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">No Proscenium Podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"thank-you-to-our-sponsors\">Thank You to Our Sponsors<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We are immensely grateful to our sponsors this season: Morty App, Buzzshot, and COGS. We truly appreciate your support of our mission to promote and improve the immersive gaming community. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/morty.app\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"758\" data-attachment-id=\"103024\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/asset-264x\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x.png\" data-orig-size=\"1174,869\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Asset 26@4x\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-1024x758.png 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-300x222.png 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-768x568.png 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x-685x507.png 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x.png 1174w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size has-custom-lineheight mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\" style=\"line-height:1;font-size:51px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mortyapp.com\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Morty<\/strong><\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\">Morty is a free app for discovering, planning, tracking, and reviewing your escape rooms and other immersive social outings. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0 mt-0 pt-0\"><strong>Morty News: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Morty now features haunt attractions! <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Morty for Android is here and in public beta. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Special Badge for REPOD listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can learn more at <a href=\"https:\/\/morty.app\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>MortyApp.com\/REPOD<\/strong><\/a> to sign up and get a special badge for our listeners. (This works for existing users too!) <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"663\" height=\"341\" data-attachment-id=\"112962\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/buzzshot-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"663,341\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"buzzshot logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg\" alt=\"Buzzshot logo featuring a rounded square with a white &quot;Z&quot; surrounded by stylized z shaped graphics\" class=\"wp-image-112962\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo.jpg 663w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/buzzshot-logo-300x154.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 663px) 100vw, 663px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/repod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Buzzshot<\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Buzzshot is Escape Room Software, Powering Business Growth, Player Marketing, and improving the Customer Experience. They offer an assortment of pre and post game features including robust waiver management, branded team photos, and streamlined review management for Yelp, TripAdvisor, Google Reviews, and Morty. Buzzshot now has integration with the other REPOD sponsors: Morty and COGS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\"><strong>Special Offer for REPOD Listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>REPOD listeners get an extended 21-day free trial plus <strong>20% off <\/strong>your first 3 months, with no set-up fees or hidden charges. Visit <a href=\"https:\/\/buzzshot.com\/repod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>buzzshot.com\/repod<\/strong><\/a> to learn more about this exclusive offer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"351\" data-attachment-id=\"125398\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/cogs-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"800,351\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"cogs logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg\" alt=\"logo for COGS, the C looks like a gear, and it's white text over a purple background\" class=\"wp-image-125398\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo.jpg 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo-300x132.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cogs-logo-768x337.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">COGS<\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>COGS by Clockwork Dog is an easy to use software\/ hardware platform for running interactive events, including escape rooms, and other immersive experiences. They have plug &amp; play hardware that seamlessly integrates with their software so you can create a show with lighting and sound cues without having to write a single line of code.&nbsp;Map all kinds of inputs to outputs by building up simple logic steps which determine what you want to happen and when.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\"><strong>Special Offer for REPOD Listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"mb-0 pb-0\">REPOD listeners can get the COGS Starter Set for only $130 + free shipping to the USA. This bundle is usually valued at $257. You can learn more and purchase your Starter Set at <a href=\"https:\/\/cogs.show\/#start\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>cogs.show<\/strong><\/a>. Use code <strong>REPOD<\/strong> at checkout.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"787\" data-attachment-id=\"136024\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/recon-24-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"800,787\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"RECON 24 Logo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo.jpg\" alt=\"RECON 24 Los Angeles logo with a spotlight shining a light on the RECON triangle.\" class=\"wp-image-136024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo.jpg 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo-300x295.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo-150x148.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/RECON-24-Logo-768x756.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size mt-0 pt-0\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/realityescapecon.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RECON &#8211; The Reality Escape Convention<\/a><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Our convention, RECON, will be in Los Angeles, California at the Hilton Los Angeles\/ Universal City on August 18th &amp; 19th, 2024.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>RECON offers a curated collection of talks and experiences exploring the business and art of escape room and immersive game creation. All are welcome at this event that is crafted around professionals and aspiring professionals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tickets are on sale now at <a href=\"https:\/\/shop.realityescapecon.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RealityEscapeCon.com<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"topics-discussed-in-this-episode\">Topics Discussed in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>00:00 Welcome to the Reality Escape Pod!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>00:12 Sponsor Break: COGS by Clockwork Dog, Interactive Show Controls<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>02:03 Introducing Noah Nelson, Founder of No Proscenium Covering the Immersive Space<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>03:00 The Origin Story of No Proscenium<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>04:15 Exploring Transmedia and Noah&#8217;s First Experience of Sleep No More and Then She Fell<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>07:13 The Immersive Theater Newsletter and Early Coverage of Escape Rooms<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>12:17 The Evolution of the Term &#8220;Immersive&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>18:13 Immersive Experiences and the Future of Escape Rooms<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>21:20 Sponsor Break: Morty App, Discover and Track Escape Rooms<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>22:33 Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>24:07 Can&#8217;t-Miss Immersive Experiences in Southern California<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>27:33 Sponsor Break: Buzzshot, Escape Room Marketing Software<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>29:07 Cross-Pollination of Ideas: Escape Rooms and Immersive Theater<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>29:20 The Power of Performance and Connection<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>30:32 Immersive Theater Insights for Escape Room Design<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>31:46 Immersive \u201cSnake Oil\u201d and <a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2024\/03\/03\/vet-immersive-experience-willys-chocolate-experience-disaster\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Willy Wonka Immersive Experience: A Case Study<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>32:45 The Dangers of AI in Creative Industries<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>35:51 Navigating Hype Cycles in Immersive Arts<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>39:52 Preserving the Ephemeral: The Importance of Documenting Immersive Experiences<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>48:18 The Future of Immersive Arts and Education<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>52:09 Future Projects<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:00:27 Bonus Story: The Jungle Game<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Leave us a voicemail<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Got a question or thought for the podcast? You can submit a voice recording by calling the Room Escape Artist not-so-hotline that always goes straight to voicemail (551-227-7273).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"resources-mentioned-in-this-episode\">Resources Mentioned in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/noproscenium.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">No Proscenium Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.everythingimmersive.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Everything Immersive Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.immersiveexperience.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Immersive Experience Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2015\/10\/20\/450239655\/escape-rooms-challenge-players-to-solve-puzzles-to-get-out\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Noah&#8217;s early coverage of escape rooms for NPR<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Recommendations for SoCal\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hatchescapes.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hatch Escapes<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theministryofpeculiarities.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ministry of Peculiarities<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjt.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Museum of Jurassic Technology<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/crossroadsescapegames.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cross Roads Escape Games<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">About Noah Nelson<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" data-attachment-id=\"144212\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/img_1578-noah-nelson\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"4032,3024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone X&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1567627280&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1578 &amp;#8211; Noah Nelson\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-1024x768.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"old fashioned looking classroom with teal walls. chalkboard says detention. there is a man wearing all black, standing with his hands on his hips and he is scowling.\" class=\"wp-image-144212\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-1200x900.jpg?crop=1 1200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-800x600.jpg?crop=1 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-600x450.jpg?crop=1 600w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-400x300.jpg?crop=1 400w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/IMG_1578-Noah-Nelson-200x150.jpg?crop=1 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>IG: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/no_proscenium\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@no_proscenium<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>X: <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/noproscenium\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@noproscenium<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/noahjnelson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@noahjnelson<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Noah Nelson is the founder of No Proscenium, a publication dedicated to exploring the immersive and experiential arts, its sister site Everything Immersive, and the non-profit organization The Immersive Experience Institute. As a producer he has led multiple immersive industry events including The Next Stage (2023), the Los Angeles Immersive Invitational (2019 &amp; 2022), the Denver Immersive Gathering (2022), and the Immersive Design Summit (2018 &amp; 2019). His extensive experience consulting on immersive work includes Camp Christmas (Denver Center for the Performing Arts), and working with Tender Claws to develop initial casting protocols for The Under Presents (Meta Quest). He holds a bachelor&#8217;s in Theatre Arts from San Francisco State University. His reporting has been heard on NPR&#8217;s All Things Considered and APM&#8217;s Marketplace. He is proud to join the faculty of CalArts School of Theater.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"support-repod\">Support REPOD<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/patreon.com\/roomescapeartist\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Subscribe to Patreon for bonus content<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Please rate and review our podcast!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Support Room Escape Artist&#8217;s Mission<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There are lots of ways to support Room Escape Artist, like buying from <a aria-label=\"Amazon (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/shop\/roomescapeart\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Amazon<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.awin1.com\/cread.php?awinmid=6220&amp;awinaffid=651019&amp;ued=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsy.com%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Etsy<\/a> after clicking into the links included in this post or backing 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