{"id":107014,"date":"2022-04-19T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2022-04-19T14:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/?p=107014"},"modified":"2024-12-03T15:03:29","modified_gmt":"2024-12-03T20:03:29","slug":"s3e10-environmental-storytelling-jeff-leinenveber-jarrett-lantz-nest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2022\/04\/19\/s3e10-environmental-storytelling-jeff-leinenveber-jarrett-lantz-nest\/","title":{"rendered":"REPOD S3E10 &#8211; Environmental Storytelling: Jeff Leinenveber and Jarrett Lantz Creators of The Nest"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe title=\"S3E10 - Environmental Storytelling: Jeff Leinenveber and Jarrett Lantz Creators of The Nest\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=4dc4u-12038e0-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Tahoma&#038;skin=1b1b1b&#038;font-color=auto&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=60a0c8\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qFVPhqGhHXE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In season 3, episode 10, we chat with Jeff Leinenveber and Jarrett Lantz, creators of <em>The Nest<\/em>, an intimate, memorable immersive experience that was a masterclass in environmental storytelling. <em>The Nest<\/em> unfolded through a series of audio cassette tapes that guests discovered while wandering through a labyrinth of memorabilia and memories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"585\" data-attachment-id=\"107040\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/the-nest-landscape\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1100,628\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"The nest landscape\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-1024x585.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-1024x585.jpg\" alt=\"two white males with short hair and short beards smiling, against a background of a man in shadow examining a room with papers hung upon a string\" class=\"wp-image-107040\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-1024x585.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-300x171.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-768x438.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape-685x391.jpg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/The-nest-landscape.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>As former Disney Imagineers, Jarrett and Jeff really showcased their talent in scenic design, crafting a rich narrative through an incredible set that took guests on a dreamlike journey through one woman&#8217;s memories. They talk about purposeful design choices meant to foster a sense of intimacy and creating spaces that help further the narrative. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The Nest<\/em> takes its guests on an emotionally charged journey through lush scenery, carefully selected props, and purposefully designed spaces. Jarrett and Jeff are truly masters of environmental storytelling, and it was a pleasure to have them on the podcast. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" data-attachment-id=\"79517\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2019\/10\/21\/scout-expedition-co-the-nest-2019-reaction\/scout-expedition-co-the-nest-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"600,400\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Scout Expedition Co. &amp;#8211; The Nest 1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo credit: Jeremey Connors&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1.jpg\" alt=\"A View-Master, a globe, and other curios sit on a desk under a lamp.\" class=\"wp-image-79517\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1.jpg 600w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Scout-Expedition-Co.-The-Nest-1-342x228.jpg 342w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo credit: Jeremey Connors<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"support-room-escape-artist-s-mission\">Take A Short Survey<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"support-room-escape-artist-s-mission\">As we plan for Season 4, please help us learn what&#8217;s working and what&#8217;s not by sharing your feedback anonymously through this survey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.surveymonkey.com\/r\/repod-season3\" style=\"background-color:#009dd2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Take Survey<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"thank-you-to-our-sponsors\">Thank You to Our Sponsors<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We are immensely grateful to our sponsors this season, Morty App and Virtual Escape Games. We truly appreciate your support of our mission to promote and improve the immersive gaming community. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"mortyapp.com\/repod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"758\" data-attachment-id=\"103024\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/asset-264x\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Asset-26@4x.png\" data-orig-size=\"1174,869\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" 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get a special badge for our listeners (works for existing users also). <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/virtualescapegames.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"440\" data-attachment-id=\"104001\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/virtual-escape-games-logo\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/virtual-escape-games-logo.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,516\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" 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300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/virtual-escape-games-logo-768x330.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/virtual-escape-games-logo-685x295.jpg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/virtual-escape-games-logo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\" id=\"morty-app\"><a href=\"https:\/\/virtualescapegames.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Virtual Escape Games<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Virtual Escape Games specializes in virtual team-building adventures for teams anywhere around the globe, 24\/7. And now introducing brand-new non-hosted games for 1-6 players.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Discount Code for REPOD listeners:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>REA20 for 20% off a non-hosted game for 1-6 players<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>TB20 for 20% off a team-building adventure for any size team!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"topics-discussed-in-this-episode\">Topics Discussed in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Jeff talks about some of their influences such as narrative video games like<a href=\"https:\/\/www.firewatchgame.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> <em>Firewatch<\/em><\/a>, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/edithfinch.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">What Remains of Edith Finch<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/gonehome.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gone Home<\/a>,<\/em> and immersive theatre productions like <em><a href=\"https:\/\/mckittrickhotel.com\/sleep-no-more\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sleep No More<\/a> <\/em>and <em><a href=\"https:\/\/thenshefell.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Then She Fell.<\/a> <\/em>[2:02]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett explains the concept of <em>The Nest.<\/em> [2:55]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about how<em> The Nest<\/em> has a similar structure to an escape room, but it\u2019s not meant to be experienced as an escape room. [3:59]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peih-Gee talks about having to recalibrate her expectations during the show, and Jeff mentions that as part of their onboarding, they try to manage expectations and guide the guests through how to enjoy <em>The Nest<\/em>. [5:32]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>They talk about how they show the guests it\u2019s not an escape room by putting all the cassette tapes at surface level so the guests won\u2019t have to tear the room apart. [6:54]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peih-Gee explains a little more about how the narrative of <em>The Nest<\/em> unfolds through a series of cassette tapes. She also mentions how the show only provides one flashlight for the two participants. [7:53]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff says providing only one flashlight was a deliberate design choice and meant to tether the guests together for a slower, more intimate shared experience. [8:37]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David talks about the intimate and introspective atmosphere of the experience. [9:15]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about their philosophy when crafting environmental storytelling. [10:28]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff and Jarrett tell us about working with the white box space, and how they like to create the layout physically, instead of digitally. [13:00]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David talks about ensuring that the theme of your experience matches the physical constraints of the space you have. [14:23]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff talks about how they really leaned into the constraints of their theme when they initially considered using an actual storage room for their show. [15:22]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about the physical space where <em>The Nest<\/em> takes place, which is in an actual 1920s storage unit building shared with Hatch Escapes. [18:13]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David talks about selecting the right props to flesh out the details of a character and theme. [21:18]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about prop shopping and how they will bend the narrative to fit around a really unique prop. [22:29]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff and Jarrett talk about the photo-developing segment in <em>The Nest<\/em>. [24:44] <em>(There are mild spoilers in this section. If you want to avoid them, you can skip ahead to 30:36.)<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff and Jarrett talk about casting and recording for the show. [30:36]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff talks about the differences between the first run of the show, where they had more secondary storylines, and the second run of the show, in which they streamlined the story. [33:16]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett explains that their original concept for <em>The Nest<\/em> was an open sandbox, which would have been less linear. [34:46]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff talks about the newly added coda at the show&#8217;s end, a final reflective activity that gave guests a moment to process the experience and add their own memory. [36:19]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peih-Gee notes that displaying memories from past guests helped the coda feel like a safe space for guests to be vulnerable and connect more deeply not only to the show, but also to the previous guests. [38:40]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about why they decided to create an experience designed for only 1-2 guests per show. [40:48]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff talks about why they have 2 people running the show. [41:48]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jeff and Jarrett talk about their past background as Disney Imagineers. [44:02]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about working on Shanghai Disneyland and accounting for cultural differences. [46:31]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett muses on taking <em>The Nest <\/em>to other countries and how they would go about adapting an American narrative to an international audience. [48:23]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett and Jeff talk about designing for a small, intimate experience versus something on a large theme park scale. [50:50]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett talks about closing <em>The Nest<\/em>, which will be running its last shows this summer, and why they decided to sunset the show. [53:30]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jarrett shares a discount code \u201c<strong>REALITYESCAPEPOD\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;just for REPOD listeners, for $10 off bookings at <em>The Nest<\/em>. [55:39]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" data-attachment-id=\"91709\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/reality-escape-pod_round-web\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web.png\" data-orig-size=\"600,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"reality-escape-pod_round-web\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web.png\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web.png\" alt=\"Reality Escape Pod mission patch logo depicts a spaceship puncturing through the walls of reality.\" class=\"wp-image-91709\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web.png 600w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/reality-escape-pod_round-web-100x100.png?crop=1 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"resources-mentioned-in-this-episode\">Resources Mentioned in this Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenestshow.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>The Nest<\/em> Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scoutexpedition.co\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scout Expedition Co Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2017\/06\/15\/scout-expedition-co-the-nest-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of <em>The Nest <\/em>(1st run)<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2019\/10\/21\/scout-expedition-co-the-nest-2019-reaction\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of<em> The Nest<\/em> (2nd run)<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.firewatchgame.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Firewatch<\/em> video game<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/edithfinch.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>What Remains of Edith Finch<\/em><\/a> video game<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em><a href=\"https:\/\/gonehome.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gone Home<\/a>&nbsp;<\/em>video game.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mckittrickhotel.com\/sleep-no-more\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Sleep No More<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thenshefell.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Then She Fell<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hatchescapes.com\/lab-rat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Lab Rat <\/em>at Hatch Escapes<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/2018\/09\/14\/hatch-escapes-lab-rat-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">REA review of<em> Lab Rat<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenestshow.com\/tickets\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Discount code for $10 off <em>The Nest<\/em>:<\/a> Use code &#8220;<strong>REALITYESCAPEPOD<\/strong>&#8220;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"about-guest-name\">About Scout Expedition Co.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"738\" data-attachment-id=\"107059\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/jeff-leinenveber-nest-scout-expedition-co\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"600,738\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co.jpg\" alt=\"white male with short brown hair and beard, smiling, wearing a button down denim shirt\" class=\"wp-image-107059\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co.jpg 600w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Jeff-Leinenveber-Nest-Scout-Expedition-Co-244x300.jpg 244w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jeff<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Founded in 2016 by themed entertainment industry veterans Jeff Leinenveber and Jarrett Lantz, Scout Expedition Co. is an immersive entertainment company based in Los Angeles, California. By uniquely blending various entertainment mediums, Scout transports audience members into never-before-seen story worlds. Scout most recently created <em>The Nest<\/em>, an award-winning immersive experience featured in The Verge, NPR, The LA Times, Forbes, and others, receiving a Thea Award for Outstanding Achievement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/scoutexpeditionco\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">IG: @scoutexpeditionco<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/scoutexpedition\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Twitter: @scoutexpedition<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scoutexpedition.co\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Website: http:\/\/www.scoutexpedition.co\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">About Corey Lubowich (Featured on the Patreon Bonus Episode)<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"991\" height=\"991\" data-attachment-id=\"107039\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/coreylubowich_dsc8132_edit_square-corey-lubowich\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"991,991\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square &amp;#8211; Corey Lubowich\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich.jpg\" alt=\"young male with blond hair and a short beard, smiling, wearing a blue and green patterned sweater\" class=\"wp-image-107039\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich.jpg 991w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-800x800.jpg?crop=1 800w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-400x400.jpg?crop=1 400w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-200x200.jpg?crop=1 200w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-685x685.jpg 685w, https:\/\/roomescapeartist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CoreyLubowich_DSC8132_EDIT_Square-Corey-Lubowich-100x100.jpg?crop=1 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 991px) 100vw, 991px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Corey is an LA based producer, director, and designer. 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